As a premise, I assume CCP wants Eve to be a game that rewards
the intelligent, aware, and careful risk-taker, while allowing human nature to
punish the stupid, the lazy, and the ignorant.
Miners often complain that gankers are overpowered, when – if they had
spent any time in null-sec, they would have learned the aligning tactics that
would keep them safe if a half-dozen Catalysts warp into their belt. Wardecced corps complain about denial of
service as a result, but fitting their ships with basic PvP in mind would allow
them to make a choice other than to dock up and hide.
The issue isn’t so much that they complain about the
inconvenience, but rather that their minds don’t immediately recognize the easy
methods of mitigating these inconveniences.
Quite simply, they never learned them.
And why not? Because they were
comfortable enough in high-sec to never have needed to travel into low or null,
where necessity would teach them these tricks.
That, my friends, is the problem. High-sec is too comfortable; it’s too easy to
make a comfortable living running level 4 missions in high-sec. That results in two- and three-year-old
characters who don’t understand how to handle themselves in PvP – in a PvP
game.
I’m not saying players shouldn’t be allowed to do industry,
mining, missions, or trading. I’m saying
you shouldn’t be able to make enough isk in high-sec to pay for PLEX each month
while still holding down a full-time RL job.
It shouldn’t be that profitable.
Otherwise, we get the status quo: many players learning nothing, gaining
the highest rewards without risk.
People will only accept risk if the reward is sufficient to
justify it. Right now, it simply
isn’t. While CCP is eliminating “tiers”
with their ships, they cannot apply this same principle to play styles. Tiericide for ships ensures that everyone can
play any play style they choose.
Tiericide for play styles themselves keeps people in high-sec.
Why should CCP care about this? The more risky play styles result in
increased losses, and increased losses result in more PLEX sales. Null-sec is stagnant, especially in the
recent months in which TEST lost half its membership, a strong, worthwhile
fight is hard to come by, and small gangs are dying. Remember: large fleet losses are paid by
alliance reimbursement, which has no interaction with PLEX. Only small-gang and solo PvP, travel, and
losses result in hits to individual wallets.
CCP should be very concerned at the loss of small-gang
warfare. A lot of these players solely
PvP, and very rarely rat. They sustain
themselves off of other accounts, loot, and bounties (though they’re
pitiful). These are exactly the type of
customers CCP wants.
But how would I go about improving the risk/reward ratio in
Eve? Here are a few modifiers I’d
change. Keep in mind the rules I stated in my intro... I'm suggesting equation and modifier changes requires little-to-no CCP development time (other than testing).
Missions
Mission locations should be changed so level 4 missions and
agents only occur in deep low-sec (at least 2-3 jumps from high-sec). Level 3 missions should be located in shallow
low-sec, with agent locations in high-sec and those low-sec systems (same as
mission). Technical change: adjust location of some agents, ownership of some
stations, and modifier on mission spawn systems (from, say, 0.6-0.5 to
0.3-0.2).
Requiring the highest mission runners to enter low-sec will
bring life back to this region, while still offering the protection of gate
guns and sec status decreases. This
should give pirate corps a shot in the arm.
I predict we’d see a drop in level-4 mission running for a couple weeks,
until mission players realize they need this riskier mission income.
A side effect of this change would be a vast decrease in
pimped-out mission ships. High-sec
players would have to learn to fly what
they can afford to lose and understand the importance of the value vs. cost
relationship in a way high-sec mission runners don’t currently. This will reduce the value of null-sec
mission loot, particularly modules like the Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster
and Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field (800 mil and 1.6 bil
respectively at present). Keep this in
mind for later.
The argument against this one will be, “Why are you forcing
people who just want to run missions to PvP?”
I’m not; I’m forcing people who want to get rich to accept some
risk. You say you have no goal but to
mission? I present you with level 1 and
level 2 missions. All the dopamine rush
of completing a task, none of the risk.
I’ve never known a rich person in real life who didn’t take risks; why
should a multiplayer sandbox game be any different?
Mining
+5% and +10% ores should be removed entirely, base ore
yields should be reduced 20%, and replaced with standardized ores: standard
value in high-sec, 125% of standard value in low, and 200% of standard value in
null. Refined mineral sizes should also
be decreased significantly, allowing easier transport. Mining barges should be much slower to align
than they are now. Technical change: all
of these are modifiers that can be tweaked: incidence rates, yields per ore,
etc.
Mining in null yields targets for small gangs. By reducing the yields, miners will either be
flushed into low or null, or accept and absorb the reduced yields. I recognize that many miners will simply plug
on as they always have; that’s fine. But
this change would give an advantage to those willing to venture deeper into
unfriendly territory, secure in the knowledge that the reduced size of refined
minerals means they can ship their goods in a cloaky transport that much more
easily. This will create targets, both
if miners and mineral transports… and when a mineral transport is caught, as
rarely happens for a smart pilot, the killers will actually be able to scoop
some of the cargo as loot. Likewise, the
slower align time will make mining barges who don’t know how to stay aligned
into scrap, providing content for everyone.
The argument against this change is that it’ll raise prices
across the board. I doubt this very
much, since it’ll also allow null-sec and low-sec to generate quite a bit of
ore, some of which will be shipped to high-sec.
The rest would be used for the next adjustment.
Industry
Retribution included changes to boost the number of station
industry slots in null-sec, and this is a good change, but we also need a
reduction in job length for null-sec station and POS industry, too, perhaps
25%. It’s easily justifiable, too…
Ishukone isn’t going to make it’s fastest, most efficient factory slots
available for the public while they plug along with rotting assembly lines, but
a null-sec alliance servicing its own alliance members should give access to
the best lines.
I would also introduce POS modules that can modify various
functions; an Industrial Optimizer that would reduce job times by a further
25%, for instance. That specialization
would come with a cost, though: for every one you onlined, you’d be crowding
out something else in your POS. As an
added kicker, these POS modules wouldn’t be anchorable in high-sec (they can’t
be limited to null, since this would put them only in reach of sov-holding
alliances, who are often reluctant to give POS management rights to line
members).
Incursions
I know the least about incursions, but I can tell you that
high-sec incursions should exist for no purpose but to teach pilots the basics
of incursion fighting. Incursions are a
good way to learn countering of neutralizers, webs, scrams, and other ewar in a
way other high-sec PvE simply cannot provide.
But remaining in the safety of high-sec shouldn’t be a viable option.
I would argue for a good mix between low-sec, sov null-sec,
and NPC null-sec for incursions, with a heavy preference for NPC null. Right now, NPC null is a good model for the
type of null-sec I hope to see, and a good first step might be to shift some
(but not all) of the sov null-sec incursions to NPC null as a way of building
more traffic and getting people accustomed to null-sec warfare, and only after
several months move them back to sov null-sec.
PvE-ers have to crawl before they can walk.
Summary
The purpose of these changes is to incentivize, but not
mandate, travel into low- and null-sec.
CCP should allow for each play style to exist in each area of space, but
not equally in all areas of space.
Isk-making and Ship-breaking should be heavily favored in null-sec’s
favor, with low-sec as a happy medium between risk and reward.
One thing is certain: Eve exists and prospers based on its
conflict, not it’s PvE. There are dozens
of games that offer more engaging PvE, and Eve cannot successfully compete on
that alone. All PvE should exist as a
gateway to Eve’s basic premise: that you can do anything you want, without
forgetting it’s basic business model premise: that players must be incentivized
into a domino-effect of engagement, starting with one activity and being drawn
in, through connections and progression, to other activities, the mix of which
can only be found in Eve.
That’s how Eve will survive.
Everybody with a blog thinks they can build a better mousetrap. Don't worry about hghsec. Adapt to the mechanics of null. Requires effort, but all things are already possible.
ReplyDeleteI completely agree, and I continue to PvP in null. My concern isn't about the mechanics of null as much as it's with pushing "null potential" subscribers to take the plunge to increase the activity. As you said, everyone with a blog talks about improving null-sec. That's a pretty clear sign that we have a problem on our hands.
DeleteActually, it's a sign that folks will always want to adjust the sandbox more to their liking. That's the thing. It is a sandbox concept in which the game experience should be molded more by what the player does with the tools given than by how the designer adjusts it to changing desires. It's ok that CCP encourages player input, but it's their responsibility to deliver simply a neutral sandbox and ours to make something out of it.
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ReplyDelete"Requiring the highest mission runners to enter low-sec will bring life back to this region, while still offering the protection of gate guns and sec status decreases."
So, there will now be more people in lowsec looking for mission runners, who will be taking 20+ minutes to do a mission and can be scanned down and tackled in a minute then killed by a gang of pirates. Practically no one would continue doing this. Gate guns would certainly be no help since you would be in a mission site for most of the time. also as soon as anyone scanned down your mission site it would become impossible to finish for ages since you would have to somehow finish the mission with a gang looking out and waiting for you. or decline and kill your standings.
"Requiring the highest mission runners"
L5s are already in lowsec I believe...
Also requiring noobs to venture into a now pirate infested and probably perma gatecamped lowsec to make any decent money while they build up assets and skills and experience is a great way to ensure 90% of them leave after losing everything.
Mining
I believe since the changes to null ore yields null mining should be significantly more valuable than it used to.
Industry
Now we're going in the right direction. Buff Null, don't nerf HS
Incursions
Yeah i really don't know why anyone would do this in null, they'd have to increase the rewards a lot before it made it worth the risk of having to fight off sansha and a pirate fleet at the same time. Unless you're Rooks and Kings :P
Maybe a solution could be to make the sansha switch aggro to any fleet that warps in.
The problem you have to address here is the "Neutral/Red in local, Dock/POS up" syndrome.
You seem to want to encourage roaming PvE killing fleets in null/low. and since anything that does this will discourage PvEers you have a problem.
" A lot of these players solely PvP, and very rarely rat. They sustain themselves off of other accounts..."
ReplyDeleteWhat, pray tell, are they doing on these 'other accounts'? I'll tell you what, the same stuff you would destroy with your other changes! making the changes you suggest would likely, in my opinion:
1. drop subs by 25%
2. create a large blue donut, safer than hisec, where people in the 'right' alliance do all the content and everyone else gets blown up in shit fit ships cause the couldn't afford better.
The only thing holding people back from null is the ISK investment. PvP needs to be a way to make ISK. I believe the problem lies in the fact that folks are forced to do Things they don't want to in order to do the stuff your do want to.
Some good points here.
DeleteI got intersted in joining a null corp a few years ago when I was scratching out a living running missions. After the nerf of null plexes I hinestly do not believe ccp has any intentions of enticing pve'ers into low or null anytime soon.
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