tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4159840807393856856.post7510983091584382264..comments2024-02-25T23:01:07.257-05:00Comments on Target Caller: How to Fly a DramielTalvorian Dexhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01349917611382684205noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4159840807393856856.post-28845947434004658152016-04-14T18:39:21.284-04:002016-04-14T18:39:21.284-04:00The Dramiel has an incredibly small signature radi...The Dramiel has an incredibly small signature radius, which means that even under mwd, large saliva have a hard time applying their damage.<br /><br />Add to that the fact of your dual- prop and you can move fast up close, under both a web and scram, yet still avoid taking damage.Talvorian Dexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01349917611382684205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4159840807393856856.post-676946522200335902016-04-14T14:30:51.075-04:002016-04-14T14:30:51.075-04:00but isn't that the case with any frig? i mean ...but isn't that the case with any frig? i mean you dont have to be in a dram to kite.. what makes the dram specialAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01172751785120481665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4159840807393856856.post-81903892158029485942015-07-12T12:51:33.040-04:002015-07-12T12:51:33.040-04:00Nice tip. I really need to get into the drug manu...Nice tip. I really need to get into the drug manufacturing business and using them as frequently as I should.Talvorian Dexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01349917611382684205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4159840807393856856.post-8062294210274344182015-07-11T07:20:01.166-04:002015-07-11T07:20:01.166-04:00Indeed Talvorian, I flew your fit and it's pre...Indeed Talvorian, I flew your fit and it's pretty fun. I actually got a few kills but afterward, I notice it was lacking in terms of targets.<br /><br />I've since then change to a dual prop, rep armor fit, using bulkhead II as rigs. I also installed a few halo implants, they're super cheap and with drugs you decrease your signature to +/- 21 m, which is really small. My idea is to speed tank, I yet have to test more and see how it goes.<br /><br />Bloody Jamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4159840807393856856.post-66710191369356536442015-07-03T20:31:02.373-04:002015-07-03T20:31:02.373-04:00It's still doable, but you have to be careful ...It's still doable, but you have to be careful about what you take on. The meta has moved a bit beyond this fit a bit. In particular, I'd avoid any light missile ship.<br /><br />I'm testing a web/scram, dual-rep Dramiel now, and will let you know how that works.Talvorian Dexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01349917611382684205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4159840807393856856.post-533922941649852282015-07-03T13:43:39.242-04:002015-07-03T13:43:39.242-04:00Maybe I've just been out of pvp for too long, ...Maybe I've just been out of pvp for too long, but I'm surprised that a kite Dram can take out cruisers. Seems like dps would be too low to effectively grind out a big tank. <br /><br />Why would a web/scram be better for a rocket Hawk? I'd think the ability to dictate range (and stay out of precision rocket range) means you win the fight without even needing to keep radial up. But forgive me, I'm brand new to pirate frigs and hesitant to jump in full force because of cost. I do have perfect nav/frig/fitting skills though.Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10134872413704859661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4159840807393856856.post-59323290498503068282015-07-01T23:29:45.725-04:002015-07-01T23:29:45.725-04:00With this fit, I'd only fight ships larger tha...With this fit, I'd only fight ships larger than me. So, I'd never take on a rocket Hawk. A web/scram version would be better for that. Better yet, fly a Daredevil... more dps and a 90% web.Talvorian Dexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01349917611382684205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4159840807393856856.post-61774951514828430402015-07-01T22:41:00.323-04:002015-07-01T22:41:00.323-04:00What kind of targets do you usually go for with yo...What kind of targets do you usually go for with your suggested fitting? What ships do you shy away from? How long would it take you to kill a rocket Hawk with this fit?Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10134872413704859661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4159840807393856856.post-31842214268991113362015-06-26T10:23:13.109-04:002015-06-26T10:23:13.109-04:00Actually, with two ambits and targeting implant I ...Actually, with two ambits and targeting implant I have 20 kms falloff instead of 18 km as I previously mentioned. <br /><br />True, I just fitted t2 disruptor because I still don't feel very comfortable with the ship and that always give me an extra range. Yes, I typically fight in FW space. Actually, the dps isn't fantastic but it still broke a dual rep tormentor tank at 18 km so not bad :) Bloody Jamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4159840807393856856.post-29034241551633269822015-06-26T08:43:29.899-04:002015-06-26T08:43:29.899-04:00Glad to hear it worked! Did you fight in FW space...Glad to hear it worked! Did you fight in FW space or elsewhere?<br /><br />The Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor probably isn't necessary for the cost... use the Faint Warp Disruptor and overheat when necessary for a cycle. Your speed is so good that you'll likely not even notice an extra 4.4 km range, and to apply damage you'll need to be within 20 km anyways.<br /><br />Nice kill!Talvorian Dexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01349917611382684205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4159840807393856856.post-14766546613780566022015-06-26T05:39:26.033-04:002015-06-26T05:39:26.033-04:00I for long felt really frustrated flying dramiels....I for long felt really frustrated flying dramiels. I love the ship and consider in terms of design one of the coolest ships around. Besides, all its speed makes it a rush to fly.<br /><br />However, I just didn't understand how to fly them. Yesterday after I read your article, I decided to retry them following your advice. I killed a tormentor, nothing special. However, he barely scratch the paint from my ship. Now I see the potential of flying a dramiel. Oh... and here's my fit:<br /><br />[High]<br /><br />2x 200 AC II<br />1x Rocket Launcher II<br /><br />[Mid]<br />1MN Afterburner II<br />5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive<br />Republic Fleet Medium Shield Extender<br />Warp Disruptor II<br /><br />[Low]<br />Internal Force Field Arraw I<br />Micro Auxiliary Power Core I<br />Nanofiber Internal Structure II<br /><br />[Rigs]<br />2x Small Projectile Ambit Extension II<br />1x Small Anti-EM Screen Extender I<br /><br /><br />I managed to fit a rocket, it helps me to kill drones more easily and offers a bit more dps if anything gets close to brawl range. I also noticed they made some updates to ac and barrage no longer has so much range so I added two ambit extension II, which increases my falloff to 18km. <br /><br />Any suggestion? Thanks TalvorianBloody Jamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4159840807393856856.post-20197961954246359112015-06-25T15:54:18.650-04:002015-06-25T15:54:18.650-04:00Good questions. A lot of people do use a Dram wit...Good questions. A lot of people do use a Dram with a scram, but this seems particularly chancy. Being in scram range means you also need to fight within web range, and this is dangerous in a Dramiel.<br /><br />1) Yes, I use the Dramiel to engage in kite range... normally. I may move in once I'm absolutely certain I'm not facing a web, though, but I have to be certain.<br />2) I wouldn't fight a Comet with rails without refitting to a scram/AB Dramiel. But, then again, I'd probably try to refit into a Daredevil instead.<br />3) I use the AB once I'm in range and have a decent understanding of the other pilot's fit. An MWD can make it easier for you to be hit, especially by missiles, whereas an AB still gives you speed, yet a low sig radius.Talvorian Dexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01349917611382684205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4159840807393856856.post-44835844679004502802015-06-25T06:08:59.404-04:002015-06-25T06:08:59.404-04:00I can't believe I was flying Dramiel so wrong....I can't believe I was flying Dramiel so wrong. Well, I had the idea that they were meant to kite. I even fitted them with a point. But then people kept telling me to use a scamb. <br /><br />I have a few questions:<br /><br />1. You engage most targets at kite range with barrage?<br />2. A comet with rails. Do you get in brawl range as close as possible and use fusion ammo?<br />3. When you are kiting do you use microwarpdrive or ab? I am guessing if your enemy has ab probably using your own one is better since you can more easily track shots?<br /><br />Thanks for the article.Bloody Jamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4159840807393856856.post-78317829410087965772015-06-08T11:16:23.491-04:002015-06-08T11:16:23.491-04:00That's a perfect example of why the Dramiel is...That's a perfect example of why the Dramiel is meant to take on larger targets, and why you should be careful attacking frigates. Dramiels shine when they have a clear maneuverability and speed advantage over the competition. A scram-fit brawler Dram will destroy a range Dram if it gets in close. If you're flying a faction-point Dram, you may be able to plop him, but tracking will be an issue.<br /><br />tl;dr, Drams succeed at hitting big, slow things, and keeping up their speed.Talvorian Dexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01349917611382684205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4159840807393856856.post-92167043816572359852015-06-08T10:10:57.146-04:002015-06-08T10:10:57.146-04:00First thing that happend to me as I took out the d...First thing that happend to me as I took out the dram was another dram scram and webbing me...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4159840807393856856.post-82806000992616220192015-05-23T20:25:27.019-04:002015-05-23T20:25:27.019-04:00You fill the gap left by the altruist .. thanks fo...You fill the gap left by the altruist .. thanks for the great infos ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4159840807393856856.post-80190464691574620332014-09-27T15:57:38.494-04:002014-09-27T15:57:38.494-04:00love it! thxlove it! thxAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com